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Asm. Greenwald: Ammunition Magazine Capacity Bill’s a Clear Cut Issue

3-20-14

Today the Assembly voted to further limit ammunition magazine capacity in New Jersey. Assembly Majority Leader Lou Greenwald told NJTV News Managing Editor Mike Schneider that data and crime statistics speak for themselves and this is a very clear cut issue.

“The argument over this bill is sound bites verses the passion and pleas of families who have actually lost the most precious thing in their life — their children. The families from Sandy Hook are not talking about conjecture, they are talking about their children that were murdered. When you talk to the people on the floor of the Assembly, they talk about this fanciful notion that something is being taken away from them yet the law is very clear. It doesn’t take away a single gun,” said Greenwald. “If it doesn’t take away a single gun, it doesn’t affect a single individual’s Second Amendment rights. All we are doing in this legislation is saying that if you currently have a 15 round magazine clip, it has to be reduced to 10. Other than that, they are the same bullets, they are the same gun that can be used lawfully in the same purpose for protection in your home, in shooting range or if you use it for hunting.”

Greenwald said that Senate President Steve Sweeney has given his word that he will guide the bill through the Senate. He said that he doesn’t see any way that Sweeney would go back on that commitment. He said that he made the argument on the floor today to stop talking about this in some fictitious notion. Greenwald said that every one of the individuals voting should sit down and talk to the families, the parents of Sandy Hook, hear their pain, hear their stories and hear them talk about the children who were able to escape and run away when the killer had to reload.

Greenwald said that he does not have any sense of where Gov. Chris Christie stands on this issue. He said that Christie has been very blunt in the past where he has said he would veto a bill when it gets to his desk and he has said that he will evaluate this bill when it gets to his desk. He said that he thinks Christie is open-minded to this bill because he has met the families from Sandy Hook and he was heard their pleas.

As for the Tesla issue, Greenwald said that the legislature was not involved in a measure that will no longer allow the maker of electric cars to sell directly to consumers. He said that Christie’s administration a couple of years ago provided a license for Tesla to market an electric car in a direct sales manner and the same administration took that right away. Greenwald said that the legislature will fix the situation if that is what is asked of them but this is not the legislature’s fight.

The legislature has only been involved in this issue for 48 hours, according to Greenwald, and he said that he has met with Tesla and the car franchise people. He said that he knows that the car franchises in New Jersey are small owned businesses by families that have rich traditions in the state and many people have bought their vehicles through those facilities and go there to have them repaired. He said that he knows what Tesla has reported and has seen the vehicle, been to the service shops, driven the car and seen the reports.

Greenwald said that it has been reported that Tesla is one of the finest cars ever made. He said citizens should be able to buy a product of that ingenuity and invention in the state. Greenwald said that he doesn’t know that Tesla needs all of the same services that a franchise does. He said that what he is trying to do now is have conversations about how he can help the electric car company.

“It’s more than Tesla. Cars and manufacturers like Tesla grow their product in the state of New Jersey and yet protect the consumer rights that are so important when you are dealing with product of this nature from the manufacturer that may be removed. That is a doable and solvable problem that we are in the process of and we will come to a solution. Our goal is to keep Tesla here and attract other companies like Tesla and make sure that this rich industry thrives in our state,” said Greenwald.


  • Roffi

    Great :o (…what next? 5? 1 round mags? I guess we get what we deserve, sitting on the couch and letting these liberals take over. You see….their barking up the wrong tree and only going for the easy kill since they can’t effectively reduce crime in Newark, Trenton, Camden, Irvington etc…they are going after “Law Abiding” citizens of NJ.
    What these politicians are projecting here is “we are not pro-active about the children, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters dieing each day in our own crime ridden innner cities but we can spend tax payer money and resources and go after projected hypathical occurances here in NJ”.

    These politicians say they brokered a deal with NJ 2A rights groups but they lie, maybe they spoke to Sweeneys fishermen group NJOA but ANJRPC and NJ2AS reporting no contact whatsoever,

    I am so very sorry for those children and families in CT, have have 3 kids my own but I grew up differently. With all due respect, I can only assume these politicians did not grow up around guns and taught gun safety. My father taught me and I teach my kids, My dad brought his .22 on bus in Maspeth NY , go to school, leave it in his locker till shooting class after school. My uncle boards bus in Paterson in the 60′s with shotgun to go hunting in Oakland and Haskell NJ. When I was 10 I’d walk out of house in West Milford with my older brother with shoguns and spend the day in the woods target practicing. When I went to high school seniors still had guns in gun racks in trucks. Education and parenting and upbringing is the key.

    For the record…. 25 and 30 rounds mags are standard to the rest of most U.S.. “15″ round “High Capacity” is a joke.

    Maybe a Jersey revolution is in order starting with http://www.recallsweeney.com/ then moving onto ejecting….

    Louis D Greenwald primary sponsor A2006 (Democrat) District 6
    Annette Quijano primary (Democrat) District 20
    Timothy J. Eustace primary (Democrat) District 38
    Gordon M Johnson primary (Democrat) District 37
    Mila M Jasey primary (Democrat) District 27
    Bonnie Watson Coleman cosponsor (Democrat) District 15
    John F McKeon cosponsor (Democrat) District 27
    L. Grace Spencer cosponsor (Democrat) District 29
    Gabriela M. Mosquera cosponsor (Democrat) District 4
    Gary S Schaer cosponsor (Democrat) District 36
    Reed Gusciora cosponsor (Democrat) District 15
    Cleopatra G Tucker cosponsor (Democrat) District 28

    and eject any Republicans that voted yes also.

    • Barbara Zydorski

      How about you do what you were elected to do. Get up off your pompous asses and clean up the crime in the citys.
      Camden Newark, Trenton , Atlantic City.
      Stop blaming law abiding gun owners for the crasys and the criminals.
      You have failed as elected officials. How about enforcing the laws on the books for gun crimes with stronger penalties..
      Criminals don’t obey the laws. They purchase as many guns and ammo as they want. Out of trunks of cars.
      The oposite of what law abiding gun owners do.
      We file for the proper permits , get three backround checks for every permit for hand guns and
      one for each long riffle.

      So how about you put the blame on the bloody hands of criminals and your bloody hands for not protesting it’s citizens from criminals.
      The real issue

      • Barbara Zydorski

        Why don’t you tell the truth here.
        The Arora shooting the gun man passed two movie theaters that allowed concealed carry.
        and picked a theater with a gun free zone to kill his victims.
        how about you keep criminals in jail like the three Newark man that you and our judicial system let out that were released from jail from prior gun crimes. To let them loose to kill people in the Mall At Short Hills.
        and as far as the Connecticut School shooting was from someone with mental health issues that was diagnosed with out berger syndrome.
        In which his mom was neglagent. In teaching her son with a mental defect. And not locking her guns up.
        His Dad said he wishes his son was never born.
        He knew he would of killed him because he was evil.
        Real stand up kind of guy
        all mass shootings occur in gun free zones.
        maybe if one person in that school had a concealed carry license. He would of not gotten off as many rounds.
        so those of you that are clueless about guns and gun safety.
        need to stop your propaganda.
        Look in the toughest gun laws in the country citys.
        gun free zones.
        crime rates for murder and homicide is the highest. It dosnt work..
        you are opening the door for criminals to make more victims.
        our constitution states the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon.
        Stop passing the blame on the legal for the illegal.
        The blood is on your hands

  • Tony Maccaronio

    AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.IF THIS DOES NOT WAKE EVERYONE-MEDIA INCLUDED THAT THIS IS TYRANNY NOTHIGN WILL.WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 95% AGAISNT SOEMTHING AND YOU STILL DO IT-THAT IS TYRANNY AND IN MY DEFINITION OF TYRANNY YOU ARE GOING AGAISNT THE US CONSTITUTION WHICH MAKES YOU A TRAITOR PUNISHABLE BY DEATH FOR CRIEMS AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA.JUSTICE WILL NOT BE SERVED UNTIL THESE TRAITORS TO THE CONSTITUTION ARE PUT ON DISPLAY BEFORE ALL WITH THEIR NECKS IN A NOOSE ACROSS CAPITOLS ALL OVER THIS GREAT COUNTRY.THIS IS OUR COUNTRY NOT THE COUNTRY OF LIBERAL ELITISTS WHOSE MISSION IS TO DISARM AMERICA AND MAKE EVERYOEN DEPENDENT ON THE GOVT FOR EVERY FACET OF THEIR LIVES.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.GOD BLESS AMERICA AND TO HELL WITH THE TYRANTS!

  • bigking776

    What is most disturbing is how immature they are on this issue. He says sound bites and speaks as if I, a tax payer of the great state of NJ killed these children in CT, and I should have to reduce the size of my magazines to 10 rounds because somehow I, by possessing items I have possessed for 20+ years and never killed a thing am responsible for these children being murdered. This is the most STUPID approach to a logical argument. I thought Greenwald was a lawyer? Can he craft a logical argument on this issue? I dont think so.
    How will bringing my magazine down to 10 rounds affect crime and murder in NJ?
    How will criminalizing a group of people who are using items that were legal go over in general? Will they build new jails to house us?
    How can NJ afford to lock up tax payers when Fitch just downgraded the state’s finances and debt outlook. Surely Lou Greenwald, the BUDGET CHAIR should have been focusing on these items and not my magazines.
    How can NJ afford to lock up a class of people who will not comply with stupid laws?
    How can NJ afford to deal with lawsuits filed by the wealthy, the NRA, other states, and other advocacy organizations for NJ’s infringement on the Second Amendment?
    Listen Assemblyman Greenwald, Its NJ, we are not stupid, we are wealthy and smart.
    You cant hookwink us with bringing aggrieved white parents infront of the curtain from another state when the aggrieved black families in south Jersey get nothing?
    Will your bill make it more illegal for a criminal to have a gun?
    Will your bill make murder more illegal than it already is?
    You pushed to hard, and not too smart. Your vote has been held up in the senate for Monday.
    Time out for Lou….

  • Gary Nero

    Moot….15 then 10 next 5 then guns…you are talking about this and that Greenwald….I hope your rainbow bubble breaks…we are sick about ALL your idiocy…and who’s data? Yes Greenwald…it does ban firearms as you’ve been shown but are too too myopic as we know you are all brain dead…You need a psychological exam as your BOY Mainor….but one can not argue with idiots like you..